#157870  by Tommy Moonii
 Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:48 pm
Hi all,

First time poster but I've been using these forums for about a week now. I know some of these topics are beat to death, but I learn something new in everyone of these discussions. So my question is, what was Jerry's pedal order from about 76 to 78 before he started using racks? From what I gather in the other forum topics he had these pedals:

Script MXR Distortion+
Script MXR Phase 100
MXR Analog Delay
Mutron Octave Divider
Mutron III
Wah (not sure if it was Colorsound or a Vox)
 #157872  by Ebearius
 Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:33 am
Not sure if this is exactly the way Garcia did it, but my best results are from:

Guitar-Mutron-Octave-Distortion-Phase-Delay

Usually don't use a wah with this combo. But I'd likely put it off the board on the back. Everything else would be turned off when I used it. I just always think the Mutron should get the absolute max signal.
 #157885  by Tommy Moonii
 Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:01 pm
Hm. Could be that Garcia did the same thing and didn't have the wah in the chain with his other effects. I found this video where there's a couple of floor shots and the only thing I see is what looks like a Crybaby wah next to his mic stand. But if you skip to about 6:42 you can briefly see what looks like an MXR Phase 100 but it's on Bobby's side. Did Bobby ever use a Phase 100?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wdIdqWju2M
 #157975  by mkaufman
 Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:22 pm
Tommy Moonii wrote:Did Bobby ever use a Phase 100?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wdIdqWju2M
Somewhere, I'm pretty sure I've seen a stage picture from Day on the Green Oct. '76 (with the Who), where Weir had what looked like a Phase 100. Would make sense for Looks Like Rain before he was using Ibanez rackmount gear.

ace
 #157986  by waldo041
 Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:16 am
First, he did not use a Vox wah. After the Colorsound, a Morley appears, then a Mutron Wah, and finally a Thomas Organ in the 80's and 90's.

effects order would have been

Mu Oct Div
Mutron III

Wah
Distortion+
Phase 100
Delay

~waldo
 #158022  by Tommy Moonii
 Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:28 pm
mkaufman wrote:
Tommy Moonii wrote:Did Bobby ever use a Phase 100?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wdIdqWju2M
Somewhere, I'm pretty sure I've seen a stage picture from Day on the Green Oct. '76 (with the Who), where Weir had what looked like a Phase 100. Would make sense for Looks Like Rain before he was using Ibanez rackmount gear.

ace
Yeah I actually just heard the Dead's show at Golden Gate Park on 9/28/75 and you can hear him using it on Help On The Way.

waldo041 wrote:First, he did not use a Vox wah. After the Colorsound, a Morley appears, then a Mutron Wah, and finally a Thomas Organ in the 80's and 90's.

effects order would have been

Mu Oct Div
Mutron III

Wah
Distortion+
Phase 100
Delay

~waldo
Thanks for the info Waldo. But what about that video in my earlier post? That was from 76 and it looks like a Thomas Organ Crybaby by his mic stand.