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Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:29 am
by Jon S.
I need a miracle! Thanks. :smile:

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:00 am
by strumminsix
What parts are you struggling with, dude?

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:16 am
by Jon S.
If I admit it, I'll drop in your estimation. But if I don't, I'll pass up the opportunity to learn from someone who's totally into authentic Dead playing. Oh, the conundrum! OK, I'll bite (heck, you already know I don't know squat about cabinet ohmage :oops: ) and hope you continue to feel that no question is a dumb question. :)

The basic part for the intro. + riff & 1st two lines of the verses. I just can't nail what Bobby's doing! :cry:

P.S. At least I think I mean Bobby's part (not the riff lead line).

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:49 am
by strumminsix
Okay, first let's talk about how to count the song:
"Cold iron shackles, ball and chain"
Should count 1 AND 2 AND 3 AND 4 (the 4's AND comes just after "chain")
We know 4 beats on C so it's a simple chart ||: C / / / :||

Play that out and hear the timing and firstly slide into the C from a B.

From there Bobby does some partial chords of F then G. Here is the chart for the whole line
||: C / / / | C F G C :||

"You know you bound to wind up dead" - Let's count out 8 here instead of 4 above (read = remove the 'AND's)

||: C7 / B7 / | Bb7 / C7 C :||

(these could also be diminished 7ths by the same root but I only play 3 strings on this part so it doesn't matter and I don't include the tonic.

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:10 am
by Jon S.
We're getting close! What I'm really seeking to learn is EXACTLY what Bobby (assuming it's him) is playing here - not just the chord, all of the different notes and "chirps" (for lack of a better word)!

||: C / / / |

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:43 am
by strumminsix
Jon S. wrote:We're getting close! What I'm really seeking to learn is EXACTLY what Bobby (assuming it's him) is playing here - not just the chord, all of the different notes and "chirps" (for lack of a better word)!

||: C / / / |
Um, sliding up to the C?
Sustained notes?
Whammy bar?
Inversion?

I've heard him do all them and more.

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:39 am
by Jon S.
Today is not my day - I can't even seem to send you a PM now from here. Oh well. Will send you PM via The Gear Page instead. Problem is we're up against the limits of my musical vocabulary now, I'm hoping I can speak w/you briefly by phone, guitar in hand. Will send you my #. Thanks. Jon S.

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:42 am
by strumminsix
Do it. But it will likely be a few days til I can call.

I've got my acoustic jam tonight, practice tomorrow, gig Wednesday (with our very own JDSMODULUS!)

Thursday is already booked for non-music as well as Friday.

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:22 pm
by Jon S.
That's great, I'm patient, call when convenient for you. Thanks again so much! :cool:

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:16 pm
by deadguise
Try this: http://www.jdarks.com/files/tennesseejed.htm

JDarks does tab out some Bobby riffs occaisionally...

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:21 pm
by jlg327
Oddly enough, I was trying to figure this one out last night.

Strummin, you said you play partial chords at times in this (among others, I'm sure). Which shape? A-form? D-form? Just looking for a starting point. Thanks.

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:40 am
by strumminsix
jlg327 wrote:Oddly enough, I was trying to figure this one out last night.

Strummin, you said you play partial chords at times in this (among others, I'm sure). Which shape? A-form? D-form? Just looking for a starting point. Thanks.
In the verse for the F & G chords I use D-form and mostly do a 5+3 inversion

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:59 pm
by jlg327
Thanks Strummin! I find I like the E-form for the C chord and then the D-form for the F and G, like you mentioned.

Jon, check out this version of Tennessee Jed, Bobby's parts are crystal clear in the left channel:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd73-11- ... sbeok.shnf

All-around a great show.

Jim

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:51 am
by gdrfk1990
though what most of you have will work this walk down functions this way

C7 Cdim7 F/C C Phil keeps the C in the bass for the whole walk down

can be played like this on guitar with Bass playing C

E|--8------5-----
B|--8---7--6--5--
G|--9---8--5--5--
D|--8---7--7--5--
A|--10-----------
E|--8------------


Possible Bobby part

E|------------------
B|--11--10--10--8---
G|--12--11--10--9---
D|--10--10--10--10--
A|------------------
E|------------------

Re: Tab or video instruction for Bobby's Ten. Jed parts?

PostPosted:Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:05 am
by gdrfk1990
here is the exact Bobby part from 3-15-90 for the walkdown" you know you bound to wind up dead" he arppegiates these chords. Very similar to the types of chords seen in the Terrapin Bobby Video

C7 Co7 F/C C
E|----------------------
B|--13----13----13--13--
G|--12----11----10--12--
D|--10----10----10--14--
A|----------------------
E|----------------------